My agent called and said he had an interview for me with this man who was casting a pilot film for a science fiction thing and there's this role for a running part. So I went and I met the man. As a matter of fact when I met Gene Roddenberry, I mispronounced his name. I called him "Mr. Rosenberry." And he mispronounced my name. He called me "Tack-I", which is not an uncommon mispronunciation. It's pronounced "Tack-eh" as you pronounced it, so we got started by mispronouncing each other's names. When he described the role to me, I knew that this was the role that I had to have. And I knew that there would be a lot of competition for it, so I was really nervous about it. And so after a stressful tense week, the phone rang again and my agent told me that I had the part, and the rest as they say, is history.